Cat Not Eating
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my 10 yr old cat stopped eating and drinking a little water for 3 days and dropping weight……took him to the vets this morning thinking diabetias only to find that his kidneys are shutting down….not reversible but i was told with the right food and medication he will have 2 to 3 yrs more with us God willing
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Still a good idea to keep your appointment with the vet; I had an unhappy experience with my 15 year old cat who stopped eating. Good luck with your furry one.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hmmmm… > Well hi all.
I just signed up here cause my cat, who is 17 years old is > having similar problems with not eating. It has been three days now that she > has not been eating anything except for maybe a cat treat or two per day. > She will try to drink some water and has eaten some grass. She is normally a > very hungry cat, always ready to eat when my husband gets up in the morning > and then meowing halfway through the day for more if she is low on food. As > she has gotten older she has had the habit of vomiting once or twice a week, > probably because she tries to digest her food too quickly or if she tries > clearly out a hairball. The last couple days she has left a green substance, > I don’t know if that is from the grass or it’s stomach acid. Anyway, we are > going to bring her into the vet tomorrow. Her last check up was last month > and the vet saw no major problems with her. She has also, in the past, has > been getting these cysts that come and go. We had them checked out last year > only to find it was clear fluid that looked harmless (so said the vet) but I > don’t know. Could be she’s obviously old and getting sick. Anyway, just > thought I’d share. I know this group isn’t too active but I hope to hear > from anyone about this.
> — > Lisa Gehl
I’d sure ask for a blood panel and make sure they do a thorough one. At that age, could be anything but get a thorough exam. Karen
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> Well hi all.
I just signed up here cause my cat, who is 17 years old is > having similar problems with not eating. It has been three days now that she > has not been eating anything except for maybe a cat treat or two per day. > She will try to drink some water and has eaten some grass. She is normally a > very hungry cat, always ready to eat when my husband gets up in the morning > and then meowing halfway through the day for more if she is low on food. As > she has gotten older she has had the habit of vomiting once or twice a week, > probably because she tries to digest her food too quickly or if she tries > clearly out a hairball. The last couple days she has left a green substance, > I don’t know if that is from the grass or it’s stomach acid.
Julius had similar symptoms. WORK FAST; a cat that isn’t eating can go into hepatic lipidosis fast. Julius went for an expensive endoscopy and the doc found absolute evidence of irritable bowel disease. Our vet said that had we not been able to afford the endoscopy, his next choice would have been to try to treat for that. Because we found and treated it early, Julius is in wonderful health now. — It is better to light just one little candle than to curse the darkness. If everyone lit just one little candle, the EPA would outlaw candles.
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Well, thank you everyone for your advice. As luck would have it, not long after I posted my problem to you all, Maddie started eating again. We’ve been letting her eat a little at a time because we are afraid she will wolf it down and throw up again. But she’s been her old self since last night, walking around and being vocal that she’s hungry. So maybe she just had a passing sickness. I’ll keep an eye out. Thanks again all.
— Lisa Gehl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well hi all.
I just signed up here cause my cat, who is 17 years old is > having similar problems with not eating. It has been three days now that she > has not been eating anything except for maybe a cat treat or two per day. > She will try to drink some water and has eaten some grass. She is normally a > very hungry cat, always ready to eat when my husband gets up in the morning > and then meowing halfway through the day for more if she is low on food. As > she has gotten older she has had the habit of vomiting once or twice a week, > probably because she tries to digest her food too quickly or if she tries > clearly out a hairball. The last couple days she has left a green substance, > I don’t know if that is from the grass or it’s stomach acid. > Julius had similar symptoms. WORK FAST; a cat that isn’t eating can go > into hepatic lipidosis fast. Julius went for an expensive endoscopy and > the doc found absolute evidence of irritable bowel disease. Our vet > said that had we not been able to afford the endoscopy, his next choice > would have been to try to treat for that. Because we found and treated > it early, Julius is in wonderful health now. > — > It is better to light just one little candle than to curse the darkness. > If everyone lit just one little candle, the EPA would outlaw candles.
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Hmmmm… Well hi all.
I just signed up here cause my cat, who is 17 years old is having similar problems with not eating. It has been three days now that she has not been eating anything except for maybe a cat treat or two per day. She will try to drink some water and has eaten some grass. She is normally a very hungry cat, always ready to eat when my husband gets up in the morning and then meowing halfway through the day for more if she is low on food. As she has gotten older she has had the habit of vomiting once or twice a week, probably because she tries to digest her food too quickly or if she tries clearly out a hairball. The last couple days she has left a green substance, I don’t know if that is from the grass or it’s stomach acid. Anyway, we are going to bring her into the vet tomorrow. Her last check up was last month and the vet saw no major problems with her. She has also, in the past, has been getting these cysts that come and go. We had them checked out last year only to find it was clear fluid that looked harmless (so said the vet) but I don’t know. Could be she’s obviously old and getting sick. Anyway, just thought I’d share. I know this group isn’t too active but I hope to hear from anyone about this.
— Lisa Gehl
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A cat can’t go that long not eating without risking > *serious problems*. Any halfway decent vet will tell you to bring them > in the second day they aren’t eating. It doesn’t > sound like yours has yet stressed the importance > of the cat eating, even if it is via forced feedings. > If that’s the case, you need to find yourself a better vet. > An occasional nibble doesn’t cut it, and visible weight > loss is SERIOUS. The vet should have showed you already > how to force feed her. > The behavior you are describing may be indicative of > polyps, or a tumor, somewhere in her esophogus. Neither > you, or the vet, would be able to ascertain if it was > the case by visual, or physical exam. May not show up > with xrays either. Using an endoscope > would ascertain if either were present, or any deeper > obstruction. Most likely your vet will have to refer > you to a vet who has an endoscope. > You really need to realize the serious nature of > the "not eating/visible weight loss" situation, and > the additional health problems the cat is at risk of > due to not eating. Yes, even though in various > ways your cat appears "well" to you. That is the very > deceptive nature of sick cats often. Cats with cancer > appear totally healthy for months. Even when initially > exhibiting symptoms of something wrong, the symptoms > are often such that the owner can’t conceive there > is anything seriously wrong with their cat. A false > perception of your cat’s "well-being" on your part, > can cost you much heartbreak down the road of life. > Depending on what the current problem > turns out to be, time can be of the essence. > Locate another vet quickly. The xrays should have > been done already. Depending on what they show, > could lead to barrium xrays, or ultrasound.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a tether in a > fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a week. She drinks plenty > of water, and seems healthy otherwise. Her behaviour and routine seem > normal (craves the occasional scratch, wants to go outside, etc.), she > simply doesn’t appear to have any interest in food. She has visibly lost > weight. > She is in close contact with two other cats I own, both of which have > healthy appetites. > She has been to the vet for an examination and blood workup (biochemistry > gen. profile + electrolytes, complete blood count, and thyroid t4 vt). All > the tests came up clean, and the vet was unable to find anything physically > wrong with her. She did have something to eat upon returning from the vet > (no doubt due to adrenaline from the stress of the ordeal)–so she _can_ > eat. We now have her on an apatite stimulant (cyproheptadine hcl) and she > is having the occasional, very, very small, nibble. > She is having movements, and they seem regular (small, dark, and somewhat > hard) considering the extremely small amount she eats. We haven’t brought a > sample in to be tested yet. > There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual behaviour she has > exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she opens her > mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit something out, and rubs > her face with her paw (I can’t tell if she is rubbing her nose or mouth). > Whatever it is does not appear to be causing her any pain… it is not a > desperate movement, it appears to be more of an annoyance. There is no > stomach or lung activity when she does this (i.e. no sneezing, heaving, or > hacking). She does it most often a few minutes after she has tried to have > something to eat. The vet saw this behaviour and didn’t quite know what to > make of it. The vet examined her mouth, tongue, and nose extensively to see > if there were any obstructions or signs of irritation. I have checked many > times since myself, and found nothing. > The vet has suggested the next step is to bring her in for X-rays, and > possibly and IV feeding if she does not start to eat on her own. > Has anyone seen this type of behaviour before? We have tried various > different foods, including baby food, putting her regular food in warm water > or chicken broth, various canned foods, and people food. She has always > been a picky eater, and has never wanted anything other than her regular > dry, Science Diet food. Now she behaves like she doesn’t have an interest > in eating at all.
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> Oh dear. This sounds like it may be a throat or esophagal cyst or tumor. > The vet needs to check to see whether there is a blockage of the > throat or esophagus (the tube from the throat to the stomach) using > a little scope that they have for that purpose. Usually cats have to be > anesthestized for this procedure because they don’t appreciate vets > shoving little tubes down their throat (doh!). > In a human, this is generally treatable via radiation therapy or > surgery if it turns out to be cancer. I don’t know how it would be > treated in a cat.
With a cancerous tumor of the esophogus in a cat, it depends on the type of cancer. Lymphosarcoma can be treated with radiation followed by chemotherapy for the duration of the cat’s life. Lymphosarcoma is one of the more treatable types of cancer. The cat cannot be on prednisone however, barring for a couple/three days if it is going to receive chemotherapy. A week is too long. It will render them unsuitable for the chemotherapy they must have. It needs to be ascertained that cancer is definitely not a possibility with this cat before sticking the cat arbitrarily on prednisone.
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A cat can’t go that long not eating without risking *serious problems*. Any halfway decent vet will tell you to bring them in the second day they aren’t eating. It doesn’t sound like yours has yet stressed the importance of the cat eating, even if it is via forced feedings. If that’s the case, you need to find yourself a better vet. An occasional nibble doesn’t cut it, and visible weight loss is SERIOUS. The vet should have showed you already how to force feed her. The behavior you are describing may be indicative of polyps, or a tumor, somewhere in her esophogus. Neither you, or the vet, would be able to ascertain if it was the case by visual, or physical exam. May not show up with xrays either. Using an endoscope would ascertain if either were present, or any deeper obstruction. Most likely your vet will have to refer you to a vet who has an endoscope. You really need to realize the serious nature of the "not eating/visible weight loss" situation, and the additional health problems the cat is at risk of due to not eating. Yes, even though in various ways your cat appears "well" to you. That is the very deceptive nature of sick cats often. Cats with cancer appear totally healthy for months. Even when initially exhibiting symptoms of something wrong, the symptoms are often such that the owner can’t conceive there is anything seriously wrong with their cat. A false perception of your cat’s "well-being" on your part, can cost you much heartbreak down the road of life. Depending on what the current problem turns out to be, time can be of the essence. Locate another vet quickly. The xrays should have been done already. Depending on what they show, could lead to barrium xrays, or ultrasound. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a tether in a > fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a week. She drinks plenty > of water, and seems healthy otherwise. Her behaviour and routine seem > normal (craves the occasional scratch, wants to go outside, etc.), she > simply doesn’t appear to have any interest in food. She has visibly lost > weight. > She is in close contact with two other cats I own, both of which have > healthy appetites. > She has been to the vet for an examination and blood workup (biochemistry > gen. profile + electrolytes, complete blood count, and thyroid t4 vt). All > the tests came up clean, and the vet was unable to find anything physically > wrong with her. She did have something to eat upon returning from the vet > (no doubt due to adrenaline from the stress of the ordeal)–so she _can_ > eat. We now have her on an apatite stimulant (cyproheptadine hcl) and she > is having the occasional, very, very small, nibble. > She is having movements, and they seem regular (small, dark, and somewhat > hard) considering the extremely small amount she eats. We haven’t brought a > sample in to be tested yet. > There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual behaviour she has > exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she opens her > mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit something out, and rubs > her face with her paw (I can’t tell if she is rubbing her nose or mouth). > Whatever it is does not appear to be causing her any pain… it is not a > desperate movement, it appears to be more of an annoyance. There is no > stomach or lung activity when she does this (i.e. no sneezing, heaving, or > hacking). She does it most often a few minutes after she has tried to have > something to eat. The vet saw this behaviour and didn’t quite know what to > make of it. The vet examined her mouth, tongue, and nose extensively to see > if there were any obstructions or signs of irritation. I have checked many > times since myself, and found nothing. > The vet has suggested the next step is to bring her in for X-rays, and > possibly and IV feeding if she does not start to eat on her own. > Has anyone seen this type of behaviour before? We have tried various > different foods, including baby food, putting her regular food in warm water > or chicken broth, various canned foods, and people food. She has always > been a picky eater, and has never wanted anything other than her regular > dry, Science Diet food. Now she behaves like she doesn’t have an interest > in eating at all.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a > tether in a fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a > week. [snip] There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual > behaviour she has exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … > during which she opens her mouth, moves her tongue like she is > trying to spit something out, and rubs her face with her paw > [snip] > This is just an update on Lily’s status for anyone who is interested. > She has had an overnight stay at the veterinary hospital for IV > fluids, feeding, and observation. She had relatively normal > movements, considering. Her x-rays were clean, with the exception of > gas build-up due to extended anorexia. Her mouth and teeth have been > extensively examined, again. There was no sign of irritation, and > her teeth are in excellent shape for a cat her age. > The vet has given us a prescription for prednisone. The medication > is an educated shot-in-the-dark, and also has the side effect of > increasing apatite and drinking–started her on it today. Still no > interest in food; sniffs at food and walks away at most. Still no > idea what is wrong. > I’ve picked up a bunch oral syringes so we can feed her manually. > We’ll see how it goes. > Thanks for everyone’s suggestions.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery. Prednisone may take a few days to a week in my limited experience but once it kicks in, it’s piggy kitty.
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Multi B vitamin tablets once a day will help to improve appetite. Marie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a >> tether in a fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a >> week. [snip] There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual >> behaviour she has exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … >> during which she opens her mouth, moves her tongue like she is >> trying to spit something out, and rubs her face with her paw > [snip] > This is just an update on Lily’s status for anyone who is interested. > She has had an overnight stay at the veterinary hospital for IV > fluids, feeding, and observation. She had relatively normal > movements, considering. Her x-rays were clean, with the exception of > gas build-up due to extended anorexia. Her mouth and teeth have been > extensively examined, again. There was no sign of irritation, and > her teeth are in excellent shape for a cat her age. > The vet has given us a prescription for prednisone. The medication > is an educated shot-in-the-dark, and also has the side effect of > increasing apatite and drinking–started her on it today. Still no > interest in food; sniffs at food and walks away at most. Still no > idea what is wrong. > I’ve picked up a bunch oral syringes so we can feed her manually. > We’ll see how it goes. > Thanks for everyone’s suggestions. > Best wishes for a speedy recovery. Prednisone may take a few days to a week > in my limited experience but once it kicks in, it’s piggy kitty.
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Since the cat is allowed outside, is it possible she has eaten (or continues to eat) something in the yard that is causing this behavior? I’ve noticed my cat will nibble on vegetation occasionally as if sampling different salads. He does the tongue-moving behavior when he samples something distasteful. Also, cats will sometimes develop a fondness for licking non-food objects, like something made of plastic. If you haven’t been watching your cat, you might try watching her from a window or place where she can’t see you to see if she’s doing any of these things. Bill
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a tether in a > fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a week. > [snip] > There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual behaviour she has > exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she opens > her > mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit something out, and rubs > her face with her paw > [snip] > This is just an update on Lily’s status for anyone who is interested. > She has had an overnight stay at the veterinary hospital for IV fluids, > feeding, and observation. She had relatively normal movements, considering. > Her x-rays were clean, with the exception of gas build-up due to extended > anorexia. Her mouth and teeth have been extensively examined, again. There > was no sign of irritation, and her teeth are in excellent shape for a cat > her age. > The vet has given us a prescription for prednisone. The medication is an > educated shot-in-the-dark, and also has the side effect of increasing > apatite and drinking–started her on it today. Still no interest in food; > sniffs at food and walks away at most. Still no idea what is wrong. > I’ve picked up a bunch oral syringes so we can feed her manually. We’ll see > how it goes. > Thanks for everyone’s suggestions.
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> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a tether in a > fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a week. [snip] > There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual behaviour she has > exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she opens her > mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit something out, and rubs > her face with her paw
[snip] This is just an update on Lily’s status for anyone who is interested. She has had an overnight stay at the veterinary hospital for IV fluids, feeding, and observation. She had relatively normal movements, considering. Her x-rays were clean, with the exception of gas build-up due to extended anorexia. Her mouth and teeth have been extensively examined, again. There was no sign of irritation, and her teeth are in excellent shape for a cat her age. The vet has given us a prescription for prednisone. The medication is an educated shot-in-the-dark, and also has the side effect of increasing apatite and drinking–started her on it today. Still no interest in food; sniffs at food and walks away at most. Still no idea what is wrong. I’ve picked up a bunch oral syringes so we can feed her manually. We’ll see how it goes. Thanks for everyone’s suggestions.
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> Which baby foods have onion powder? I bought Veal, Chicken and Turkey (Gerber) > when my cat wouldn’t eat and none of them have onion powder or any other > flavoring.
If onion powder is in fact the harmful-to-cats flavor enhancer that I’m thinking of, it’s found in a lot of baby foods. I would guess the mixtures (meat & vegetables, noodle dishes, etc.) are the primary culprits. I also nursed a cat back to health by hand feeding with baby meats once. One just needs to really read the labels, as you obviously did. I wouldn’t want to generalize that all of the meats are free of other ingredients. — Diana http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-portaltomypages
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> Must warn you away from > baby food, by the way. Much of it contains an ingredient that is > harmful to cats — I believe it’s the onion powder. I do wish you > well, and hope your girl has a complete recovery. Let us hear.
Which baby foods have onion powder? I bought Veal, Chicken and Turkey (Gerber) when my cat wouldn’t eat and none of them have onion powder or any other flavoring. One has to check the labels – some have onion, some don’t. Cathy — "Staccato signals of constant information…" ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon
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>>> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a >> tether in a fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a >> week. She drinks plenty of water, and seems healthy otherwise. > [snip] >> The only unusual behaviour she has >> exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she >> opens her mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit >> something out, and rubs her face with her paw (I can’t tell if she >> is rubbing her nose or mouth). [snip] The vet has suggested the next
Oh dear. This sounds like it may be a throat or esophagal cyst or tumor. The vet needs to check to see whether there is a blockage of the throat or esophagus (the tube from the throat to the stomach) using a little scope that they have for that purpose. Usually cats have to be anesthestized for this procedure because they don’t appreciate vets shoving little tubes down their throat (doh!). In a human, this is generally treatable via radiation therapy or surgery if it turns out to be cancer. I don’t know how it would be treated in a cat. — BadTux News’n'Views: http://news.badtux.net —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a > tether in a fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a > week. She drinks plenty of water, and seems healthy otherwise. > [snip] > We now have her on an apatite stimulant (cyproheptadine hcl) and she > is having the occasional, very, very small, nibble. > [snip] > The only unusual behaviour she has > exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she > opens her mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit > something out, and rubs her face with her paw (I can’t tell if she > is rubbing her nose or mouth). [snip] The vet has suggested the next > step is to bring her in for X-rays, and possibly and IV feeding if > she does not start to eat on her own.> > [snip] > We have tried various > different foods, including baby food, putting her regular food in > warm water or chicken broth, various canned foods, and people food. > [and snip] > Oh, dear! I’m glad she doesn’t appear to be in distress, but this is > seriously worrisome nonetheless. Are you aware that cats can develop > life threatening complications from losing weight too quickly? I > would waste no time in taking more aggressive measures, unless her > eating is continuing to increase steadily. Must warn you away from > baby food, by the way. Much of it contains an ingredient that is > harmful to cats — I believe it’s the onion powder. I do wish you > well, and hope your girl has a complete recovery. Let us hear.
Which baby foods have onion powder? I bought Veal, Chicken and Turkey (Gerber) when my cat wouldn’t eat and none of them have onion powder or any other flavoring.
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> The vet has suggested the next step is to bring her in for X-rays, and > possibly and IV feeding if she does not start to eat on her own.
X-rays are an excellent idea – she may have a tooth or other problem that cannot be seen by eye. Oral pain is one of the main causes of inappetence. Prolonged inappetence can and does precipitate hepatic lipidosis; I wouldn’t wait any longer to have her x-rayed. Good luck. Phil.
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I agree with Phil P. It may be her teeth bothering her. Did the vet check to see if the teeth were in alignment? My cat exhibited the same symptoms and there was tartar blocking his teeth when he chewed. In the meantime, try soft baby food that is soft enough to just lap up and swallow. Mary
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The vet has suggested the next step is to bring her in for X-rays, and > possibly and IV feeding if she does not start to eat on her own. > X-rays are an excellent idea – she may have a tooth or other problem that > cannot be seen by eye. Oral pain is one of the main causes of inappetence. > Prolonged inappetence can and does precipitate hepatic lipidosis; I wouldn’t > wait any longer to have her x-rayed. > Good luck. > Phil.
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I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a tether in a fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a week. She drinks plenty of water, and seems healthy otherwise. Her behaviour and routine seem normal (craves the occasional scratch, wants to go outside, etc.), she simply doesn’t appear to have any interest in food. She has visibly lost weight. She is in close contact with two other cats I own, both of which have healthy appetites. She has been to the vet for an examination and blood workup (biochemistry gen. profile + electrolytes, complete blood count, and thyroid t4 vt). All the tests came up clean, and the vet was unable to find anything physically wrong with her. She did have something to eat upon returning from the vet (no doubt due to adrenaline from the stress of the ordeal)–so she _can_ eat. We now have her on an apatite stimulant (cyproheptadine hcl) and she is having the occasional, very, very small, nibble. She is having movements, and they seem regular (small, dark, and somewhat hard) considering the extremely small amount she eats. We haven’t brought a sample in to be tested yet. There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual behaviour she has exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she opens her mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit something out, and rubs her face with her paw (I can’t tell if she is rubbing her nose or mouth). Whatever it is does not appear to be causing her any pain… it is not a desperate movement, it appears to be more of an annoyance. There is no stomach or lung activity when she does this (i.e. no sneezing, heaving, or hacking). She does it most often a few minutes after she has tried to have something to eat. The vet saw this behaviour and didn’t quite know what to make of it. The vet examined her mouth, tongue, and nose extensively to see if there were any obstructions or signs of irritation. I have checked many times since myself, and found nothing. The vet has suggested the next step is to bring her in for X-rays, and possibly and IV feeding if she does not start to eat on her own. Has anyone seen this type of behaviour before? We have tried various different foods, including baby food, putting her regular food in warm water or chicken broth, various canned foods, and people food. She has always been a picky eater, and has never wanted anything other than her regular dry, Science Diet food. Now she behaves like she doesn’t have an interest in eating at all.
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my 10 yr old cat stopped eating and drinking a little water for 3 days and dropping weight……took him to the vets this morning thinking diabetias only to find that his kidneys are shutting down….not reversible but i was told with the right food and medication he will have 2 to 3 yrs more with us God willing
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Still a good idea to keep your appointment with the vet; I had an unhappy experience with my 15 year old cat who stopped eating. Good luck with your furry one.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hmmmm… > Well hi all.
I just signed up here cause my cat, who is 17 years old is > having similar problems with not eating. It has been three days now that she > has not been eating anything except for maybe a cat treat or two per day. > She will try to drink some water and has eaten some grass. She is normally a > very hungry cat, always ready to eat when my husband gets up in the morning > and then meowing halfway through the day for more if she is low on food. As > she has gotten older she has had the habit of vomiting once or twice a week, > probably because she tries to digest her food too quickly or if she tries > clearly out a hairball. The last couple days she has left a green substance, > I don’t know if that is from the grass or it’s stomach acid. Anyway, we are > going to bring her into the vet tomorrow. Her last check up was last month > and the vet saw no major problems with her. She has also, in the past, has > been getting these cysts that come and go. We had them checked out last year > only to find it was clear fluid that looked harmless (so said the vet) but I > don’t know. Could be she’s obviously old and getting sick. Anyway, just > thought I’d share. I know this group isn’t too active but I hope to hear > from anyone about this.
> — > Lisa Gehl
I’d sure ask for a blood panel and make sure they do a thorough one. At that age, could be anything but get a thorough exam. Karen
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> Well hi all.
I just signed up here cause my cat, who is 17 years old is > having similar problems with not eating. It has been three days now that she > has not been eating anything except for maybe a cat treat or two per day. > She will try to drink some water and has eaten some grass. She is normally a > very hungry cat, always ready to eat when my husband gets up in the morning > and then meowing halfway through the day for more if she is low on food. As > she has gotten older she has had the habit of vomiting once or twice a week, > probably because she tries to digest her food too quickly or if she tries > clearly out a hairball. The last couple days she has left a green substance, > I don’t know if that is from the grass or it’s stomach acid.
Julius had similar symptoms. WORK FAST; a cat that isn’t eating can go into hepatic lipidosis fast. Julius went for an expensive endoscopy and the doc found absolute evidence of irritable bowel disease. Our vet said that had we not been able to afford the endoscopy, his next choice would have been to try to treat for that. Because we found and treated it early, Julius is in wonderful health now. — It is better to light just one little candle than to curse the darkness. If everyone lit just one little candle, the EPA would outlaw candles.
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Well, thank you everyone for your advice. As luck would have it, not long after I posted my problem to you all, Maddie started eating again. We’ve been letting her eat a little at a time because we are afraid she will wolf it down and throw up again. But she’s been her old self since last night, walking around and being vocal that she’s hungry. So maybe she just had a passing sickness. I’ll keep an eye out. Thanks again all.
— Lisa Gehl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well hi all.
I just signed up here cause my cat, who is 17 years old is > having similar problems with not eating. It has been three days now that she > has not been eating anything except for maybe a cat treat or two per day. > She will try to drink some water and has eaten some grass. She is normally a > very hungry cat, always ready to eat when my husband gets up in the morning > and then meowing halfway through the day for more if she is low on food. As > she has gotten older she has had the habit of vomiting once or twice a week, > probably because she tries to digest her food too quickly or if she tries > clearly out a hairball. The last couple days she has left a green substance, > I don’t know if that is from the grass or it’s stomach acid. > Julius had similar symptoms. WORK FAST; a cat that isn’t eating can go > into hepatic lipidosis fast. Julius went for an expensive endoscopy and > the doc found absolute evidence of irritable bowel disease. Our vet > said that had we not been able to afford the endoscopy, his next choice > would have been to try to treat for that. Because we found and treated > it early, Julius is in wonderful health now. > — > It is better to light just one little candle than to curse the darkness. > If everyone lit just one little candle, the EPA would outlaw candles.
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Hmmmm… Well hi all.
I just signed up here cause my cat, who is 17 years old is having similar problems with not eating. It has been three days now that she has not been eating anything except for maybe a cat treat or two per day. She will try to drink some water and has eaten some grass. She is normally a very hungry cat, always ready to eat when my husband gets up in the morning and then meowing halfway through the day for more if she is low on food. As she has gotten older she has had the habit of vomiting once or twice a week, probably because she tries to digest her food too quickly or if she tries clearly out a hairball. The last couple days she has left a green substance, I don’t know if that is from the grass or it’s stomach acid. Anyway, we are going to bring her into the vet tomorrow. Her last check up was last month and the vet saw no major problems with her. She has also, in the past, has been getting these cysts that come and go. We had them checked out last year only to find it was clear fluid that looked harmless (so said the vet) but I don’t know. Could be she’s obviously old and getting sick. Anyway, just thought I’d share. I know this group isn’t too active but I hope to hear from anyone about this.
— Lisa Gehl
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A cat can’t go that long not eating without risking > *serious problems*. Any halfway decent vet will tell you to bring them > in the second day they aren’t eating. It doesn’t > sound like yours has yet stressed the importance > of the cat eating, even if it is via forced feedings. > If that’s the case, you need to find yourself a better vet. > An occasional nibble doesn’t cut it, and visible weight > loss is SERIOUS. The vet should have showed you already > how to force feed her. > The behavior you are describing may be indicative of > polyps, or a tumor, somewhere in her esophogus. Neither > you, or the vet, would be able to ascertain if it was > the case by visual, or physical exam. May not show up > with xrays either. Using an endoscope > would ascertain if either were present, or any deeper > obstruction. Most likely your vet will have to refer > you to a vet who has an endoscope. > You really need to realize the serious nature of > the "not eating/visible weight loss" situation, and > the additional health problems the cat is at risk of > due to not eating. Yes, even though in various > ways your cat appears "well" to you. That is the very > deceptive nature of sick cats often. Cats with cancer > appear totally healthy for months. Even when initially > exhibiting symptoms of something wrong, the symptoms > are often such that the owner can’t conceive there > is anything seriously wrong with their cat. A false > perception of your cat’s "well-being" on your part, > can cost you much heartbreak down the road of life. > Depending on what the current problem > turns out to be, time can be of the essence. > Locate another vet quickly. The xrays should have > been done already. Depending on what they show, > could lead to barrium xrays, or ultrasound.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a tether in a > fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a week. She drinks plenty > of water, and seems healthy otherwise. Her behaviour and routine seem > normal (craves the occasional scratch, wants to go outside, etc.), she > simply doesn’t appear to have any interest in food. She has visibly lost > weight. > She is in close contact with two other cats I own, both of which have > healthy appetites. > She has been to the vet for an examination and blood workup (biochemistry > gen. profile + electrolytes, complete blood count, and thyroid t4 vt). All > the tests came up clean, and the vet was unable to find anything physically > wrong with her. She did have something to eat upon returning from the vet > (no doubt due to adrenaline from the stress of the ordeal)–so she _can_ > eat. We now have her on an apatite stimulant (cyproheptadine hcl) and she > is having the occasional, very, very small, nibble. > She is having movements, and they seem regular (small, dark, and somewhat > hard) considering the extremely small amount she eats. We haven’t brought a > sample in to be tested yet. > There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual behaviour she has > exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she opens her > mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit something out, and rubs > her face with her paw (I can’t tell if she is rubbing her nose or mouth). > Whatever it is does not appear to be causing her any pain… it is not a > desperate movement, it appears to be more of an annoyance. There is no > stomach or lung activity when she does this (i.e. no sneezing, heaving, or > hacking). She does it most often a few minutes after she has tried to have > something to eat. The vet saw this behaviour and didn’t quite know what to > make of it. The vet examined her mouth, tongue, and nose extensively to see > if there were any obstructions or signs of irritation. I have checked many > times since myself, and found nothing. > The vet has suggested the next step is to bring her in for X-rays, and > possibly and IV feeding if she does not start to eat on her own. > Has anyone seen this type of behaviour before? We have tried various > different foods, including baby food, putting her regular food in warm water > or chicken broth, various canned foods, and people food. She has always > been a picky eater, and has never wanted anything other than her regular > dry, Science Diet food. Now she behaves like she doesn’t have an interest > in eating at all.
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> Oh dear. This sounds like it may be a throat or esophagal cyst or tumor. > The vet needs to check to see whether there is a blockage of the > throat or esophagus (the tube from the throat to the stomach) using > a little scope that they have for that purpose. Usually cats have to be > anesthestized for this procedure because they don’t appreciate vets > shoving little tubes down their throat (doh!). > In a human, this is generally treatable via radiation therapy or > surgery if it turns out to be cancer. I don’t know how it would be > treated in a cat.
With a cancerous tumor of the esophogus in a cat, it depends on the type of cancer. Lymphosarcoma can be treated with radiation followed by chemotherapy for the duration of the cat’s life. Lymphosarcoma is one of the more treatable types of cancer. The cat cannot be on prednisone however, barring for a couple/three days if it is going to receive chemotherapy. A week is too long. It will render them unsuitable for the chemotherapy they must have. It needs to be ascertained that cancer is definitely not a possibility with this cat before sticking the cat arbitrarily on prednisone.
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A cat can’t go that long not eating without risking *serious problems*. Any halfway decent vet will tell you to bring them in the second day they aren’t eating. It doesn’t sound like yours has yet stressed the importance of the cat eating, even if it is via forced feedings. If that’s the case, you need to find yourself a better vet. An occasional nibble doesn’t cut it, and visible weight loss is SERIOUS. The vet should have showed you already how to force feed her. The behavior you are describing may be indicative of polyps, or a tumor, somewhere in her esophogus. Neither you, or the vet, would be able to ascertain if it was the case by visual, or physical exam. May not show up with xrays either. Using an endoscope would ascertain if either were present, or any deeper obstruction. Most likely your vet will have to refer you to a vet who has an endoscope. You really need to realize the serious nature of the "not eating/visible weight loss" situation, and the additional health problems the cat is at risk of due to not eating. Yes, even though in various ways your cat appears "well" to you. That is the very deceptive nature of sick cats often. Cats with cancer appear totally healthy for months. Even when initially exhibiting symptoms of something wrong, the symptoms are often such that the owner can’t conceive there is anything seriously wrong with their cat. A false perception of your cat’s "well-being" on your part, can cost you much heartbreak down the road of life. Depending on what the current problem turns out to be, time can be of the essence. Locate another vet quickly. The xrays should have been done already. Depending on what they show, could lead to barrium xrays, or ultrasound. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a tether in a > fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a week. She drinks plenty > of water, and seems healthy otherwise. Her behaviour and routine seem > normal (craves the occasional scratch, wants to go outside, etc.), she > simply doesn’t appear to have any interest in food. She has visibly lost > weight. > She is in close contact with two other cats I own, both of which have > healthy appetites. > She has been to the vet for an examination and blood workup (biochemistry > gen. profile + electrolytes, complete blood count, and thyroid t4 vt). All > the tests came up clean, and the vet was unable to find anything physically > wrong with her. She did have something to eat upon returning from the vet > (no doubt due to adrenaline from the stress of the ordeal)–so she _can_ > eat. We now have her on an apatite stimulant (cyproheptadine hcl) and she > is having the occasional, very, very small, nibble. > She is having movements, and they seem regular (small, dark, and somewhat > hard) considering the extremely small amount she eats. We haven’t brought a > sample in to be tested yet. > There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual behaviour she has > exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she opens her > mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit something out, and rubs > her face with her paw (I can’t tell if she is rubbing her nose or mouth). > Whatever it is does not appear to be causing her any pain… it is not a > desperate movement, it appears to be more of an annoyance. There is no > stomach or lung activity when she does this (i.e. no sneezing, heaving, or > hacking). She does it most often a few minutes after she has tried to have > something to eat. The vet saw this behaviour and didn’t quite know what to > make of it. The vet examined her mouth, tongue, and nose extensively to see > if there were any obstructions or signs of irritation. I have checked many > times since myself, and found nothing. > The vet has suggested the next step is to bring her in for X-rays, and > possibly and IV feeding if she does not start to eat on her own. > Has anyone seen this type of behaviour before? We have tried various > different foods, including baby food, putting her regular food in warm water > or chicken broth, various canned foods, and people food. She has always > been a picky eater, and has never wanted anything other than her regular > dry, Science Diet food. Now she behaves like she doesn’t have an interest > in eating at all.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a > tether in a fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a > week. [snip] There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual > behaviour she has exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … > during which she opens her mouth, moves her tongue like she is > trying to spit something out, and rubs her face with her paw > [snip] > This is just an update on Lily’s status for anyone who is interested. > She has had an overnight stay at the veterinary hospital for IV > fluids, feeding, and observation. She had relatively normal > movements, considering. Her x-rays were clean, with the exception of > gas build-up due to extended anorexia. Her mouth and teeth have been > extensively examined, again. There was no sign of irritation, and > her teeth are in excellent shape for a cat her age. > The vet has given us a prescription for prednisone. The medication > is an educated shot-in-the-dark, and also has the side effect of > increasing apatite and drinking–started her on it today. Still no > interest in food; sniffs at food and walks away at most. Still no > idea what is wrong. > I’ve picked up a bunch oral syringes so we can feed her manually. > We’ll see how it goes. > Thanks for everyone’s suggestions.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery. Prednisone may take a few days to a week in my limited experience but once it kicks in, it’s piggy kitty.
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Multi B vitamin tablets once a day will help to improve appetite. Marie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a >> tether in a fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a >> week. [snip] There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual >> behaviour she has exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … >> during which she opens her mouth, moves her tongue like she is >> trying to spit something out, and rubs her face with her paw > [snip] > This is just an update on Lily’s status for anyone who is interested. > She has had an overnight stay at the veterinary hospital for IV > fluids, feeding, and observation. She had relatively normal > movements, considering. Her x-rays were clean, with the exception of > gas build-up due to extended anorexia. Her mouth and teeth have been > extensively examined, again. There was no sign of irritation, and > her teeth are in excellent shape for a cat her age. > The vet has given us a prescription for prednisone. The medication > is an educated shot-in-the-dark, and also has the side effect of > increasing apatite and drinking–started her on it today. Still no > interest in food; sniffs at food and walks away at most. Still no > idea what is wrong. > I’ve picked up a bunch oral syringes so we can feed her manually. > We’ll see how it goes. > Thanks for everyone’s suggestions. > Best wishes for a speedy recovery. Prednisone may take a few days to a week > in my limited experience but once it kicks in, it’s piggy kitty.
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Since the cat is allowed outside, is it possible she has eaten (or continues to eat) something in the yard that is causing this behavior? I’ve noticed my cat will nibble on vegetation occasionally as if sampling different salads. He does the tongue-moving behavior when he samples something distasteful. Also, cats will sometimes develop a fondness for licking non-food objects, like something made of plastic. If you haven’t been watching your cat, you might try watching her from a window or place where she can’t see you to see if she’s doing any of these things. Bill
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a tether in a > fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a week. > [snip] > There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual behaviour she has > exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she opens > her > mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit something out, and rubs > her face with her paw > [snip] > This is just an update on Lily’s status for anyone who is interested. > She has had an overnight stay at the veterinary hospital for IV fluids, > feeding, and observation. She had relatively normal movements, considering. > Her x-rays were clean, with the exception of gas build-up due to extended > anorexia. Her mouth and teeth have been extensively examined, again. There > was no sign of irritation, and her teeth are in excellent shape for a cat > her age. > The vet has given us a prescription for prednisone. The medication is an > educated shot-in-the-dark, and also has the side effect of increasing > apatite and drinking–started her on it today. Still no interest in food; > sniffs at food and walks away at most. Still no idea what is wrong. > I’ve picked up a bunch oral syringes so we can feed her manually. We’ll see > how it goes. > Thanks for everyone’s suggestions.
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> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a tether in a > fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a week. [snip] > There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual behaviour she has > exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she opens her > mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit something out, and rubs > her face with her paw
[snip] This is just an update on Lily’s status for anyone who is interested. She has had an overnight stay at the veterinary hospital for IV fluids, feeding, and observation. She had relatively normal movements, considering. Her x-rays were clean, with the exception of gas build-up due to extended anorexia. Her mouth and teeth have been extensively examined, again. There was no sign of irritation, and her teeth are in excellent shape for a cat her age. The vet has given us a prescription for prednisone. The medication is an educated shot-in-the-dark, and also has the side effect of increasing apatite and drinking–started her on it today. Still no interest in food; sniffs at food and walks away at most. Still no idea what is wrong. I’ve picked up a bunch oral syringes so we can feed her manually. We’ll see how it goes. Thanks for everyone’s suggestions.
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> Which baby foods have onion powder? I bought Veal, Chicken and Turkey (Gerber) > when my cat wouldn’t eat and none of them have onion powder or any other > flavoring.
If onion powder is in fact the harmful-to-cats flavor enhancer that I’m thinking of, it’s found in a lot of baby foods. I would guess the mixtures (meat & vegetables, noodle dishes, etc.) are the primary culprits. I also nursed a cat back to health by hand feeding with baby meats once. One just needs to really read the labels, as you obviously did. I wouldn’t want to generalize that all of the meats are free of other ingredients. — Diana http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-portaltomypages
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> Must warn you away from > baby food, by the way. Much of it contains an ingredient that is > harmful to cats — I believe it’s the onion powder. I do wish you > well, and hope your girl has a complete recovery. Let us hear.
Which baby foods have onion powder? I bought Veal, Chicken and Turkey (Gerber) when my cat wouldn’t eat and none of them have onion powder or any other flavoring. One has to check the labels – some have onion, some don’t. Cathy — "Staccato signals of constant information…" ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon
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>>> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a >> tether in a fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a >> week. She drinks plenty of water, and seems healthy otherwise. > [snip] >> The only unusual behaviour she has >> exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she >> opens her mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit >> something out, and rubs her face with her paw (I can’t tell if she >> is rubbing her nose or mouth). [snip] The vet has suggested the next
Oh dear. This sounds like it may be a throat or esophagal cyst or tumor. The vet needs to check to see whether there is a blockage of the throat or esophagus (the tube from the throat to the stomach) using a little scope that they have for that purpose. Usually cats have to be anesthestized for this procedure because they don’t appreciate vets shoving little tubes down their throat (doh!). In a human, this is generally treatable via radiation therapy or surgery if it turns out to be cancer. I don’t know how it would be treated in a cat. — BadTux News’n'Views: http://news.badtux.net —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a > tether in a fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a > week. She drinks plenty of water, and seems healthy otherwise. > [snip] > We now have her on an apatite stimulant (cyproheptadine hcl) and she > is having the occasional, very, very small, nibble. > [snip] > The only unusual behaviour she has > exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she > opens her mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit > something out, and rubs her face with her paw (I can’t tell if she > is rubbing her nose or mouth). [snip] The vet has suggested the next > step is to bring her in for X-rays, and possibly and IV feeding if > she does not start to eat on her own.> > [snip] > We have tried various > different foods, including baby food, putting her regular food in > warm water or chicken broth, various canned foods, and people food. > [and snip] > Oh, dear! I’m glad she doesn’t appear to be in distress, but this is > seriously worrisome nonetheless. Are you aware that cats can develop > life threatening complications from losing weight too quickly? I > would waste no time in taking more aggressive measures, unless her > eating is continuing to increase steadily. Must warn you away from > baby food, by the way. Much of it contains an ingredient that is > harmful to cats — I believe it’s the onion powder. I do wish you > well, and hope your girl has a complete recovery. Let us hear.
Which baby foods have onion powder? I bought Veal, Chicken and Turkey (Gerber) when my cat wouldn’t eat and none of them have onion powder or any other flavoring.
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> The vet has suggested the next step is to bring her in for X-rays, and > possibly and IV feeding if she does not start to eat on her own.
X-rays are an excellent idea – she may have a tooth or other problem that cannot be seen by eye. Oral pain is one of the main causes of inappetence. Prolonged inappetence can and does precipitate hepatic lipidosis; I wouldn’t wait any longer to have her x-rayed. Good luck. Phil.
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I agree with Phil P. It may be her teeth bothering her. Did the vet check to see if the teeth were in alignment? My cat exhibited the same symptoms and there was tartar blocking his teeth when he chewed. In the meantime, try soft baby food that is soft enough to just lap up and swallow. Mary
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The vet has suggested the next step is to bring her in for X-rays, and > possibly and IV feeding if she does not start to eat on her own. > X-rays are an excellent idea – she may have a tooth or other problem that > cannot be seen by eye. Oral pain is one of the main causes of inappetence. > Prolonged inappetence can and does precipitate hepatic lipidosis; I wouldn’t > wait any longer to have her x-rayed. > Good luck. > Phil.
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I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a tether in a fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a week. She drinks plenty of water, and seems healthy otherwise. Her behaviour and routine seem normal (craves the occasional scratch, wants to go outside, etc.), she simply doesn’t appear to have any interest in food. She has visibly lost weight. She is in close contact with two other cats I own, both of which have healthy appetites. She has been to the vet for an examination and blood workup (biochemistry gen. profile + electrolytes, complete blood count, and thyroid t4 vt). All the tests came up clean, and the vet was unable to find anything physically wrong with her. She did have something to eat upon returning from the vet (no doubt due to adrenaline from the stress of the ordeal)–so she _can_ eat. We now have her on an apatite stimulant (cyproheptadine hcl) and she is having the occasional, very, very small, nibble. She is having movements, and they seem regular (small, dark, and somewhat hard) considering the extremely small amount she eats. We haven’t brought a sample in to be tested yet. There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual behaviour she has exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she opens her mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit something out, and rubs her face with her paw (I can’t tell if she is rubbing her nose or mouth). Whatever it is does not appear to be causing her any pain… it is not a desperate movement, it appears to be more of an annoyance. There is no stomach or lung activity when she does this (i.e. no sneezing, heaving, or hacking). She does it most often a few minutes after she has tried to have something to eat. The vet saw this behaviour and didn’t quite know what to make of it. The vet examined her mouth, tongue, and nose extensively to see if there were any obstructions or signs of irritation. I have checked many times since myself, and found nothing. The vet has suggested the next step is to bring her in for X-rays, and possibly and IV feeding if she does not start to eat on her own. Has anyone seen this type of behaviour before? We have tried various different foods, including baby food, putting her regular food in warm water or chicken broth, various canned foods, and people food. She has always been a picky eater, and has never wanted anything other than her regular dry, Science Diet food. Now she behaves like she doesn’t have an interest in eating at all.
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my 10 yr old cat stopped eating and drinking a little water for 3 days and dropping weight……took him to the vets this morning thinking diabetias only to find that his kidneys are shutting down….not reversible but i was told with the right food and medication he will have 2 to 3 yrs more with us God willing
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Still a good idea to keep your appointment with the vet; I had an unhappy experience with my 15 year old cat who stopped eating. Good luck with your furry one.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hmmmm… > Well hi all.
I just signed up here cause my cat, who is 17 years old is > having similar problems with not eating. It has been three days now that she > has not been eating anything except for maybe a cat treat or two per day. > She will try to drink some water and has eaten some grass. She is normally a > very hungry cat, always ready to eat when my husband gets up in the morning > and then meowing halfway through the day for more if she is low on food. As > she has gotten older she has had the habit of vomiting once or twice a week, > probably because she tries to digest her food too quickly or if she tries > clearly out a hairball. The last couple days she has left a green substance, > I don’t know if that is from the grass or it’s stomach acid. Anyway, we are > going to bring her into the vet tomorrow. Her last check up was last month > and the vet saw no major problems with her. She has also, in the past, has > been getting these cysts that come and go. We had them checked out last year > only to find it was clear fluid that looked harmless (so said the vet) but I > don’t know. Could be she’s obviously old and getting sick. Anyway, just > thought I’d share. I know this group isn’t too active but I hope to hear > from anyone about this.
> — > Lisa Gehl
I’d sure ask for a blood panel and make sure they do a thorough one. At that age, could be anything but get a thorough exam. Karen
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> Well hi all.
I just signed up here cause my cat, who is 17 years old is > having similar problems with not eating. It has been three days now that she > has not been eating anything except for maybe a cat treat or two per day. > She will try to drink some water and has eaten some grass. She is normally a > very hungry cat, always ready to eat when my husband gets up in the morning > and then meowing halfway through the day for more if she is low on food. As > she has gotten older she has had the habit of vomiting once or twice a week, > probably because she tries to digest her food too quickly or if she tries > clearly out a hairball. The last couple days she has left a green substance, > I don’t know if that is from the grass or it’s stomach acid.
Julius had similar symptoms. WORK FAST; a cat that isn’t eating can go into hepatic lipidosis fast. Julius went for an expensive endoscopy and the doc found absolute evidence of irritable bowel disease. Our vet said that had we not been able to afford the endoscopy, his next choice would have been to try to treat for that. Because we found and treated it early, Julius is in wonderful health now. — It is better to light just one little candle than to curse the darkness. If everyone lit just one little candle, the EPA would outlaw candles.
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Well, thank you everyone for your advice. As luck would have it, not long after I posted my problem to you all, Maddie started eating again. We’ve been letting her eat a little at a time because we are afraid she will wolf it down and throw up again. But she’s been her old self since last night, walking around and being vocal that she’s hungry. So maybe she just had a passing sickness. I’ll keep an eye out. Thanks again all.
— Lisa Gehl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well hi all.
I just signed up here cause my cat, who is 17 years old is > having similar problems with not eating. It has been three days now that she > has not been eating anything except for maybe a cat treat or two per day. > She will try to drink some water and has eaten some grass. She is normally a > very hungry cat, always ready to eat when my husband gets up in the morning > and then meowing halfway through the day for more if she is low on food. As > she has gotten older she has had the habit of vomiting once or twice a week, > probably because she tries to digest her food too quickly or if she tries > clearly out a hairball. The last couple days she has left a green substance, > I don’t know if that is from the grass or it’s stomach acid. > Julius had similar symptoms. WORK FAST; a cat that isn’t eating can go > into hepatic lipidosis fast. Julius went for an expensive endoscopy and > the doc found absolute evidence of irritable bowel disease. Our vet > said that had we not been able to afford the endoscopy, his next choice > would have been to try to treat for that. Because we found and treated > it early, Julius is in wonderful health now. > — > It is better to light just one little candle than to curse the darkness. > If everyone lit just one little candle, the EPA would outlaw candles.
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Hmmmm… Well hi all.
I just signed up here cause my cat, who is 17 years old is having similar problems with not eating. It has been three days now that she has not been eating anything except for maybe a cat treat or two per day. She will try to drink some water and has eaten some grass. She is normally a very hungry cat, always ready to eat when my husband gets up in the morning and then meowing halfway through the day for more if she is low on food. As she has gotten older she has had the habit of vomiting once or twice a week, probably because she tries to digest her food too quickly or if she tries clearly out a hairball. The last couple days she has left a green substance, I don’t know if that is from the grass or it’s stomach acid. Anyway, we are going to bring her into the vet tomorrow. Her last check up was last month and the vet saw no major problems with her. She has also, in the past, has been getting these cysts that come and go. We had them checked out last year only to find it was clear fluid that looked harmless (so said the vet) but I don’t know. Could be she’s obviously old and getting sick. Anyway, just thought I’d share. I know this group isn’t too active but I hope to hear from anyone about this.
— Lisa Gehl
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A cat can’t go that long not eating without risking > *serious problems*. Any halfway decent vet will tell you to bring them > in the second day they aren’t eating. It doesn’t > sound like yours has yet stressed the importance > of the cat eating, even if it is via forced feedings. > If that’s the case, you need to find yourself a better vet. > An occasional nibble doesn’t cut it, and visible weight > loss is SERIOUS. The vet should have showed you already > how to force feed her. > The behavior you are describing may be indicative of > polyps, or a tumor, somewhere in her esophogus. Neither > you, or the vet, would be able to ascertain if it was > the case by visual, or physical exam. May not show up > with xrays either. Using an endoscope > would ascertain if either were present, or any deeper > obstruction. Most likely your vet will have to refer > you to a vet who has an endoscope. > You really need to realize the serious nature of > the "not eating/visible weight loss" situation, and > the additional health problems the cat is at risk of > due to not eating. Yes, even though in various > ways your cat appears "well" to you. That is the very > deceptive nature of sick cats often. Cats with cancer > appear totally healthy for months. Even when initially > exhibiting symptoms of something wrong, the symptoms > are often such that the owner can’t conceive there > is anything seriously wrong with their cat. A false > perception of your cat’s "well-being" on your part, > can cost you much heartbreak down the road of life. > Depending on what the current problem > turns out to be, time can be of the essence. > Locate another vet quickly. The xrays should have > been done already. Depending on what they show, > could lead to barrium xrays, or ultrasound.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a tether in a > fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a week. She drinks plenty > of water, and seems healthy otherwise. Her behaviour and routine seem > normal (craves the occasional scratch, wants to go outside, etc.), she > simply doesn’t appear to have any interest in food. She has visibly lost > weight. > She is in close contact with two other cats I own, both of which have > healthy appetites. > She has been to the vet for an examination and blood workup (biochemistry > gen. profile + electrolytes, complete blood count, and thyroid t4 vt). All > the tests came up clean, and the vet was unable to find anything physically > wrong with her. She did have something to eat upon returning from the vet > (no doubt due to adrenaline from the stress of the ordeal)–so she _can_ > eat. We now have her on an apatite stimulant (cyproheptadine hcl) and she > is having the occasional, very, very small, nibble. > She is having movements, and they seem regular (small, dark, and somewhat > hard) considering the extremely small amount she eats. We haven’t brought a > sample in to be tested yet. > There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual behaviour she has > exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she opens her > mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit something out, and rubs > her face with her paw (I can’t tell if she is rubbing her nose or mouth). > Whatever it is does not appear to be causing her any pain… it is not a > desperate movement, it appears to be more of an annoyance. There is no > stomach or lung activity when she does this (i.e. no sneezing, heaving, or > hacking). She does it most often a few minutes after she has tried to have > something to eat. The vet saw this behaviour and didn’t quite know what to > make of it. The vet examined her mouth, tongue, and nose extensively to see > if there were any obstructions or signs of irritation. I have checked many > times since myself, and found nothing. > The vet has suggested the next step is to bring her in for X-rays, and > possibly and IV feeding if she does not start to eat on her own. > Has anyone seen this type of behaviour before? We have tried various > different foods, including baby food, putting her regular food in warm water > or chicken broth, various canned foods, and people food. She has always > been a picky eater, and has never wanted anything other than her regular > dry, Science Diet food. Now she behaves like she doesn’t have an interest > in eating at all.
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> Oh dear. This sounds like it may be a throat or esophagal cyst or tumor. > The vet needs to check to see whether there is a blockage of the > throat or esophagus (the tube from the throat to the stomach) using > a little scope that they have for that purpose. Usually cats have to be > anesthestized for this procedure because they don’t appreciate vets > shoving little tubes down their throat (doh!). > In a human, this is generally treatable via radiation therapy or > surgery if it turns out to be cancer. I don’t know how it would be > treated in a cat.
With a cancerous tumor of the esophogus in a cat, it depends on the type of cancer. Lymphosarcoma can be treated with radiation followed by chemotherapy for the duration of the cat’s life. Lymphosarcoma is one of the more treatable types of cancer. The cat cannot be on prednisone however, barring for a couple/three days if it is going to receive chemotherapy. A week is too long. It will render them unsuitable for the chemotherapy they must have. It needs to be ascertained that cancer is definitely not a possibility with this cat before sticking the cat arbitrarily on prednisone.
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A cat can’t go that long not eating without risking *serious problems*. Any halfway decent vet will tell you to bring them in the second day they aren’t eating. It doesn’t sound like yours has yet stressed the importance of the cat eating, even if it is via forced feedings. If that’s the case, you need to find yourself a better vet. An occasional nibble doesn’t cut it, and visible weight loss is SERIOUS. The vet should have showed you already how to force feed her. The behavior you are describing may be indicative of polyps, or a tumor, somewhere in her esophogus. Neither you, or the vet, would be able to ascertain if it was the case by visual, or physical exam. May not show up with xrays either. Using an endoscope would ascertain if either were present, or any deeper obstruction. Most likely your vet will have to refer you to a vet who has an endoscope. You really need to realize the serious nature of the "not eating/visible weight loss" situation, and the additional health problems the cat is at risk of due to not eating. Yes, even though in various ways your cat appears "well" to you. That is the very deceptive nature of sick cats often. Cats with cancer appear totally healthy for months. Even when initially exhibiting symptoms of something wrong, the symptoms are often such that the owner can’t conceive there is anything seriously wrong with their cat. A false perception of your cat’s "well-being" on your part, can cost you much heartbreak down the road of life. Depending on what the current problem turns out to be, time can be of the essence. Locate another vet quickly. The xrays should have been done already. Depending on what they show, could lead to barrium xrays, or ultrasound. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a tether in a > fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a week. She drinks plenty > of water, and seems healthy otherwise. Her behaviour and routine seem > normal (craves the occasional scratch, wants to go outside, etc.), she > simply doesn’t appear to have any interest in food. She has visibly lost > weight. > She is in close contact with two other cats I own, both of which have > healthy appetites. > She has been to the vet for an examination and blood workup (biochemistry > gen. profile + electrolytes, complete blood count, and thyroid t4 vt). All > the tests came up clean, and the vet was unable to find anything physically > wrong with her. She did have something to eat upon returning from the vet > (no doubt due to adrenaline from the stress of the ordeal)–so she _can_ > eat. We now have her on an apatite stimulant (cyproheptadine hcl) and she > is having the occasional, very, very small, nibble. > She is having movements, and they seem regular (small, dark, and somewhat > hard) considering the extremely small amount she eats. We haven’t brought a > sample in to be tested yet. > There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual behaviour she has > exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she opens her > mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit something out, and rubs > her face with her paw (I can’t tell if she is rubbing her nose or mouth). > Whatever it is does not appear to be causing her any pain… it is not a > desperate movement, it appears to be more of an annoyance. There is no > stomach or lung activity when she does this (i.e. no sneezing, heaving, or > hacking). She does it most often a few minutes after she has tried to have > something to eat. The vet saw this behaviour and didn’t quite know what to > make of it. The vet examined her mouth, tongue, and nose extensively to see > if there were any obstructions or signs of irritation. I have checked many > times since myself, and found nothing. > The vet has suggested the next step is to bring her in for X-rays, and > possibly and IV feeding if she does not start to eat on her own. > Has anyone seen this type of behaviour before? We have tried various > different foods, including baby food, putting her regular food in warm water > or chicken broth, various canned foods, and people food. She has always > been a picky eater, and has never wanted anything other than her regular > dry, Science Diet food. Now she behaves like she doesn’t have an interest > in eating at all.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a > tether in a fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a > week. [snip] There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual > behaviour she has exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … > during which she opens her mouth, moves her tongue like she is > trying to spit something out, and rubs her face with her paw > [snip] > This is just an update on Lily’s status for anyone who is interested. > She has had an overnight stay at the veterinary hospital for IV > fluids, feeding, and observation. She had relatively normal > movements, considering. Her x-rays were clean, with the exception of > gas build-up due to extended anorexia. Her mouth and teeth have been > extensively examined, again. There was no sign of irritation, and > her teeth are in excellent shape for a cat her age. > The vet has given us a prescription for prednisone. The medication > is an educated shot-in-the-dark, and also has the side effect of > increasing apatite and drinking–started her on it today. Still no > interest in food; sniffs at food and walks away at most. Still no > idea what is wrong. > I’ve picked up a bunch oral syringes so we can feed her manually. > We’ll see how it goes. > Thanks for everyone’s suggestions.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery. Prednisone may take a few days to a week in my limited experience but once it kicks in, it’s piggy kitty.
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Multi B vitamin tablets once a day will help to improve appetite. Marie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a >> tether in a fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a >> week. [snip] There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual >> behaviour she has exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … >> during which she opens her mouth, moves her tongue like she is >> trying to spit something out, and rubs her face with her paw > [snip] > This is just an update on Lily’s status for anyone who is interested. > She has had an overnight stay at the veterinary hospital for IV > fluids, feeding, and observation. She had relatively normal > movements, considering. Her x-rays were clean, with the exception of > gas build-up due to extended anorexia. Her mouth and teeth have been > extensively examined, again. There was no sign of irritation, and > her teeth are in excellent shape for a cat her age. > The vet has given us a prescription for prednisone. The medication > is an educated shot-in-the-dark, and also has the side effect of > increasing apatite and drinking–started her on it today. Still no > interest in food; sniffs at food and walks away at most. Still no > idea what is wrong. > I’ve picked up a bunch oral syringes so we can feed her manually. > We’ll see how it goes. > Thanks for everyone’s suggestions. > Best wishes for a speedy recovery. Prednisone may take a few days to a week > in my limited experience but once it kicks in, it’s piggy kitty.
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Since the cat is allowed outside, is it possible she has eaten (or continues to eat) something in the yard that is causing this behavior? I’ve noticed my cat will nibble on vegetation occasionally as if sampling different salads. He does the tongue-moving behavior when he samples something distasteful. Also, cats will sometimes develop a fondness for licking non-food objects, like something made of plastic. If you haven’t been watching your cat, you might try watching her from a window or place where she can’t see you to see if she’s doing any of these things. Bill
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a tether in a > fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a week. > [snip] > There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual behaviour she has > exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she opens > her > mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit something out, and rubs > her face with her paw > [snip] > This is just an update on Lily’s status for anyone who is interested. > She has had an overnight stay at the veterinary hospital for IV fluids, > feeding, and observation. She had relatively normal movements, considering. > Her x-rays were clean, with the exception of gas build-up due to extended > anorexia. Her mouth and teeth have been extensively examined, again. There > was no sign of irritation, and her teeth are in excellent shape for a cat > her age. > The vet has given us a prescription for prednisone. The medication is an > educated shot-in-the-dark, and also has the side effect of increasing > apatite and drinking–started her on it today. Still no interest in food; > sniffs at food and walks away at most. Still no idea what is wrong. > I’ve picked up a bunch oral syringes so we can feed her manually. We’ll see > how it goes. > Thanks for everyone’s suggestions.
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> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a tether in a > fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a week. [snip] > There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual behaviour she has > exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she opens her > mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit something out, and rubs > her face with her paw
[snip] This is just an update on Lily’s status for anyone who is interested. She has had an overnight stay at the veterinary hospital for IV fluids, feeding, and observation. She had relatively normal movements, considering. Her x-rays were clean, with the exception of gas build-up due to extended anorexia. Her mouth and teeth have been extensively examined, again. There was no sign of irritation, and her teeth are in excellent shape for a cat her age. The vet has given us a prescription for prednisone. The medication is an educated shot-in-the-dark, and also has the side effect of increasing apatite and drinking–started her on it today. Still no interest in food; sniffs at food and walks away at most. Still no idea what is wrong. I’ve picked up a bunch oral syringes so we can feed her manually. We’ll see how it goes. Thanks for everyone’s suggestions.
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> Which baby foods have onion powder? I bought Veal, Chicken and Turkey (Gerber) > when my cat wouldn’t eat and none of them have onion powder or any other > flavoring.
If onion powder is in fact the harmful-to-cats flavor enhancer that I’m thinking of, it’s found in a lot of baby foods. I would guess the mixtures (meat & vegetables, noodle dishes, etc.) are the primary culprits. I also nursed a cat back to health by hand feeding with baby meats once. One just needs to really read the labels, as you obviously did. I wouldn’t want to generalize that all of the meats are free of other ingredients. — Diana http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-portaltomypages
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> Must warn you away from > baby food, by the way. Much of it contains an ingredient that is > harmful to cats — I believe it’s the onion powder. I do wish you > well, and hope your girl has a complete recovery. Let us hear.
Which baby foods have onion powder? I bought Veal, Chicken and Turkey (Gerber) when my cat wouldn’t eat and none of them have onion powder or any other flavoring. One has to check the labels – some have onion, some don’t. Cathy — "Staccato signals of constant information…" ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon
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>>> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a >> tether in a fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a >> week. She drinks plenty of water, and seems healthy otherwise. > [snip] >> The only unusual behaviour she has >> exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she >> opens her mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit >> something out, and rubs her face with her paw (I can’t tell if she >> is rubbing her nose or mouth). [snip] The vet has suggested the next
Oh dear. This sounds like it may be a throat or esophagal cyst or tumor. The vet needs to check to see whether there is a blockage of the throat or esophagus (the tube from the throat to the stomach) using a little scope that they have for that purpose. Usually cats have to be anesthestized for this procedure because they don’t appreciate vets shoving little tubes down their throat (doh!). In a human, this is generally treatable via radiation therapy or surgery if it turns out to be cancer. I don’t know how it would be treated in a cat. — BadTux News’n'Views: http://news.badtux.net —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a > tether in a fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a > week. She drinks plenty of water, and seems healthy otherwise. > [snip] > We now have her on an apatite stimulant (cyproheptadine hcl) and she > is having the occasional, very, very small, nibble. > [snip] > The only unusual behaviour she has > exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she > opens her mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit > something out, and rubs her face with her paw (I can’t tell if she > is rubbing her nose or mouth). [snip] The vet has suggested the next > step is to bring her in for X-rays, and possibly and IV feeding if > she does not start to eat on her own.> > [snip] > We have tried various > different foods, including baby food, putting her regular food in > warm water or chicken broth, various canned foods, and people food. > [and snip] > Oh, dear! I’m glad she doesn’t appear to be in distress, but this is > seriously worrisome nonetheless. Are you aware that cats can develop > life threatening complications from losing weight too quickly? I > would waste no time in taking more aggressive measures, unless her > eating is continuing to increase steadily. Must warn you away from > baby food, by the way. Much of it contains an ingredient that is > harmful to cats — I believe it’s the onion powder. I do wish you > well, and hope your girl has a complete recovery. Let us hear.
Which baby foods have onion powder? I bought Veal, Chicken and Turkey (Gerber) when my cat wouldn’t eat and none of them have onion powder or any other flavoring.
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> The vet has suggested the next step is to bring her in for X-rays, and > possibly and IV feeding if she does not start to eat on her own.
X-rays are an excellent idea – she may have a tooth or other problem that cannot be seen by eye. Oral pain is one of the main causes of inappetence. Prolonged inappetence can and does precipitate hepatic lipidosis; I wouldn’t wait any longer to have her x-rayed. Good luck. Phil.
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I agree with Phil P. It may be her teeth bothering her. Did the vet check to see if the teeth were in alignment? My cat exhibited the same symptoms and there was tartar blocking his teeth when he chewed. In the meantime, try soft baby food that is soft enough to just lap up and swallow. Mary
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The vet has suggested the next step is to bring her in for X-rays, and > possibly and IV feeding if she does not start to eat on her own. > X-rays are an excellent idea – she may have a tooth or other problem that > cannot be seen by eye. Oral pain is one of the main causes of inappetence. > Prolonged inappetence can and does precipitate hepatic lipidosis; I wouldn’t > wait any longer to have her x-rayed. > Good luck. > Phil.
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I have an nine year old female indoor tabby (goes outside on a tether in a fenced yard), who hasn’t been eating for at least a week. She drinks plenty of water, and seems healthy otherwise. Her behaviour and routine seem normal (craves the occasional scratch, wants to go outside, etc.), she simply doesn’t appear to have any interest in food. She has visibly lost weight. She is in close contact with two other cats I own, both of which have healthy appetites. She has been to the vet for an examination and blood workup (biochemistry gen. profile + electrolytes, complete blood count, and thyroid t4 vt). All the tests came up clean, and the vet was unable to find anything physically wrong with her. She did have something to eat upon returning from the vet (no doubt due to adrenaline from the stress of the ordeal)–so she _can_ eat. We now have her on an apatite stimulant (cyproheptadine hcl) and she is having the occasional, very, very small, nibble. She is having movements, and they seem regular (small, dark, and somewhat hard) considering the extremely small amount she eats. We haven’t brought a sample in to be tested yet. There is no vomiting or heaving. The only unusual behaviour she has exhibited is a strange scratching of the face … during which she opens her mouth, moves her tongue like she is trying to spit something out, and rubs her face with her paw (I can’t tell if she is rubbing her nose or mouth). Whatever it is does not appear to be causing her any pain… it is not a desperate movement, it appears to be more of an annoyance. There is no stomach or lung activity when she does this (i.e. no sneezing, heaving, or hacking). She does it most often a few minutes after she has tried to have something to eat. The vet saw this behaviour and didn’t quite know what to make of it. The vet examined her mouth, tongue, and nose extensively to see if there were any obstructions or signs of irritation. I have checked many times since myself, and found nothing. The vet has suggested the next step is to bring her in for X-rays, and possibly and IV feeding if she does not start to eat on her own. Has anyone seen this type of behaviour before? We have tried various different foods, including baby food, putting her regular food in warm water or chicken broth, various canned foods, and people food. She has always been a picky eater, and has never wanted anything other than her regular dry, Science Diet food. Now she behaves like she doesn’t have an interest in eating at all.
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