Canola Oil
Question:
I would like to point out that you are an idiot. But you are now an enlightened idiot, so I can feel that I have made the world a better place by insulting you…
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> I would like to point out that you are an idiot. > But you are now an enlightened idiot, so I can feel that I have made the > world a better place by insulting you…
Greetings Jason Worth-a-Ham, I am definitely an idiot responding to a piece of you-know-what like yourself, but let me be consistent and ask you an idiotic question: Do you have anything to disprove the facts that are given in my response to the genius who posted the Canola Oil crap? If not… beat it…Ham! @#! (or if you prefer – Canola yourself…) Dre (For you, still Dr.Dre)
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>> Plus, it is low in efas even though >it is high in pufas, which is unusual. >Actually, you meant to write that it is low in PUFAs, but high in EFAs, >which is unusual.
I was speaking of the oils which he recommends for frying. It goes butter, tropical fats, high oleic oils … canola oil, and olive oil in that order of preference. He says to fry with the ones that contain the least amount of EFAs and the greatest amount of SaFAs and MUFAs. Canola has the most amount of PUFAs in the list, yet is rated higher than olive oil. There must be some components to olive oil that increase its damage from heat since it is indeed much lower in EFAs. I have not figured it out. turf
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FATS THAT HEAL AND FATS THAT KILL by Udo Erasmus >Yet Udo still says low erucic canola that is not highly processed >is acceptable. For cooking, he even rates it higher than olive >oil, but below saturated fats. I don’t use it myself because >I don’t like the taste, but that is probably because I have >never tasted fresh canola oil. Plus, it is low in efas even though >it is high in pufas, which is unusual.
Actually, you meant to write that it is low in PUFAs, but high in EFAs, which is unusual. And so it is. There’s a lot of alpha linolenic acid (ALA) in Canola, but not much of any other PUFA. The ALA, of course, makes it go rancid a bit faster, and it also is responsible for all those "linseed oil drying" type free radical volitiles that are carcinogenic and nastily reactive when ALA-containing oils are heated (or allowed to oxidize, as in oil-based paint drying). I wouldn’t cook with Canola, but when fresh it seems safe enough to eat in salads, and the ALA should be good for you. Rats don’t tolerate erucic acid very well, but that’s just one more reason that rat studies don’t always tell what’s good for people. Colza (rape oil with a lot higher erucic content) is indeed used for cooking in Europe and China, without toxicity (except when contaminated, as in a famous Spanish incident with adulterated rapeseed oil in 1980). It’s rather ironic that somebody should mention Canola as possible cause of ALD; erucic acid (for anyone who saw the movie Lorenzo’s Oil) is used to TREAT ALD. It’s one of the few things that has any effect at all. Steve Harris, M.D.
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>Lets be clear about this: We posted the "canola letter" letter sent in by >one of our customers. It doesn’t mean share her views, but we did think >it was interesting enough to post to the newsgroups. >If you wish to take issue with her "facts", you might want to contact her >at the address listed towards the beginning of the letter. >As for Dr. Dre’s repeated use of the word "stupid"; have a box of >chocolates Gump :) >Be Well. >QHI >– >Medicines For The Modern Mainstream >http://www.qhi.co.uk
I’m sorry, you can’t get off that easily. Your posting it, with no comment indicating your opinion of it, can only be taken to mean you thought it had some validity. Why else would you bother to post it — because you thought it was a bunch of crap? This is like the kid that, when corrected in a mistake, says, "Oh yeah, that’s actually what I meant." Try again. -Kevin Goldstein
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This article is a hoot! I hope no one takes it seriously. And it quotes Udo Erasmus’s book out of context! The rats that developed fatty degeneration after eating Canola Oil suffered the same fatty degeneration when fed other oils. The original experiment had no controls, as Erasmus states in his book. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > : The following letter/article was sent to us by: > : Darleen H. Bradley > : 710 SR 821 #83 > : Yakima, WA 98901 USA > : We have received her permission to post it for the benefit and interest > : of these newsgroups. > : Canola Oil, from the rape seed, referred to as the Canadian oil because > : Canada is mainly responsible for it being marketed in the USA. The > : Canadian government and industry paid our Federal Food and Drug > : Administration (FDA). $50 million dollars to have canola oil placed on > : the (GRAS) list ( Generally Recognized As Safe ). Thus a new industry > : was created. Laws were enacted affecting international trade, commerce, > : and traditional diets. Studies with lab animals were disastrous. Rats > : developed fatty degeneration of heart, kidney, adrenals, and thyroid > : gland. When canola oil was withdrawn from their diets, the deposits > : dissolved but scar tissue remained on all vital organs. No studies on > : humans were made before money was spent to promote Canola oil in the USA. > : Adrenoleukodystrophy (ALD) is a rare fatal degenerative disease caused by > : a build up of long-chain fatty acids (c22 to c28) which destroys the > : myelin (protective sheath) of the nerves. Canola oil is a very long chain > : fatty acid oil (c22). Those who will defend canola oil say that the > : Chinese and Indians have used it for centuries with no effect, however it > : was in an unrefined form.*
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: : * taken from FATS THAT HEAL AND FATS THAT KILL by Udo Erasmus Yet Udo still says low erucic canola that is not highly processed is acceptable. For cooking, he even rates it higher than olive oil, but below saturated fats. I don’t use it myself because I don’t like the taste, but that is probably because I have never tasted fresh canola oil. Plus, it is low in efas even though it is high in pufas, which is unusual. Sorry about that last response from lsmith. I was on her machine and mistakenly hit reply and sent the message before I did an su turf. turf
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Lets be clear about this: We posted the "canola letter" letter sent in by one of our customers. It doesn’t mean share her views, but we did think it was interesting enough to post to the newsgroups. If you wish to take issue with her "facts", you might want to contact her at the address listed towards the beginning of the letter. As for Dr. Dre’s repeated use of the word "stupid"; have a box of chocolates Gump :) Be Well. QHI — Medicines For The Modern Mainstream http://www.qhi.co.uk
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: The following letter/article was sent to us by: : Darleen H. Bradley : 710 SR 821 #83 : Yakima, WA 98901 USA : We have received her permission to post it for the benefit and interest : of these newsgroups. : Canola Oil, from the rape seed, referred to as the Canadian oil because : Canada is mainly responsible for it being marketed in the USA. The : Canadian government and industry paid our Federal Food and Drug : Administration (FDA). $50 million dollars to have canola oil placed on : the (GRAS) list ( Generally Recognized As Safe ). Thus a new industry : was created. Laws were enacted affecting international trade, commerce, : and traditional diets. Studies with lab animals were disastrous. Rats : developed fatty degeneration of heart, kidney, adrenals, and thyroid : gland. When canola oil was withdrawn from their diets, the deposits : dissolved but scar tissue remained on all vital organs. No studies on : humans were made before money was spent to promote Canola oil in the USA. : Adrenoleukodystrophy (ALD) is a rare fatal degenerative disease caused by : a build up of long-chain fatty acids (c22 to c28) which destroys the : myelin (protective sheath) of the nerves. Canola oil is a very long chain : fatty acid oil (c22). Those who will defend canola oil say that the : Chinese and Indians have used it for centuries with no effect, however it : was in an unrefined form.* : My cholesterol level was 150. After a year using Canola oil tested 260. I : switched back to pure olive oil and it has taken 5 years to get down to : 160. Thus began this project to find answers since most Doctors will say : that Canola oil is OK. : My sister spilled Canola oil on a piece of fabric, after 5 pre-treatings : and harsh washings, the oil spot still showed. She stopped using Canola : oil, wondering what it did to our insides if it could not be removed from : cloth easily. : Our father bred birds, always checking labels to insure there was no rape : seed in their food. He said "The birds will eat it but they do not live : very long ". : A friend who worked for only 9 months as a quality control taster, at an : apple-chip factory where Canola oil was used exclusively for frying, : developed numerous health problems including loose teeth; gum disease, : gum and nail beds turned grey; numb hands and feet with cramps; swollen : arms and legs upon rising in the morning; extreme joint pain especially : in hands; cloudy vision ; constipation with stools like black marbles; : hearing loss; skin tears from being bumped; lack of energy; hair loss; : and heart pains. It has been five years since she has worked there and : still has some joint pain, gum disease, and numbness. A fellow worker, : about 30 yrs old who ate very little of the product, had a routine check : up and found that his blood vessels were like those of an 80 year old : man. Two employees fed waste products to baby calves and their hair fell : out. After removing the fried apples-chips from the diet their hair has : grown back in. : Be sure to check products for ingredients. If it says. " This product may : contain one or more of the following…" and list Canola oil, you can : expect it to contain Canola oil because it is the cheapest oil and the : government subsidizes Canola oil to some industries involved in food : processing, bakeries and schools. : My daughter and her girls were telling jokes. Stephany hit her mom
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