South Beach Diet
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>This diet eliminates all snacks. > It’s obvious you haven’t read the diet. This is not true. Even on > phase 1 snacks are required. Don’t slam the diet unless you have > actually looked into it.
I did read the diet. At least I read the link that somebody (Wendy Baker?) provided. I am not slamming the diet. I simply said it would not work for me. And it wouldn’t. I wouldn’t be able to stick to it. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->It would be doable for me, only if I were allowed to eat other protein foods >that are not meat! But this diet doesn’t seem to allow such things. At >least not for the first two weeks. > This is not true either. Here is a list of the foods you can eat on > Phase 1: > BEEF Lean cuts, such as: > Sirloin (including ground) > Tenderloin > Top round
Don’t eat any of this except for occasional fround beef. > POULTRY (SKINLESS) > Cornish hen > Turkey bacon (2 slices per day) > Turkey and chicken breast
Eat none of these things except for occasional turkey. > SEAFOOD > All types of fish and shellfish
Eat none of this except for occasional tuna. > PORK > Boiled ham > Canadian bacon > Tenderloin
Don’t eat. > VEAL > Chop > Cutlet, leg > Top round
Don’t eat. > LUNCHMEAT > Fat-free or low-fat only
Don’t eat. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> CHEESE (FAT-FREE OR LOW-FAT) > American > Cheddar > Cottage cheese, 1-2% or fat-free > Cream cheese substitute, dairy-free > Feta > Mozzarella > Parmesan > Provolone > Ricotta > String
Don’t eat reduced fat cheese with the exception of 2% cottage. The rest tastes terrible to me and the texture is bad. > NUTS > Peanut butter, 1 tsp > Peanuts, 20 small > Pecan halves, 15 > Pistachios, 30
1 tsp. of peanut butter? Why bother? I could eat the peanuts and pecans, but not much protein in those small amounts. > EGGS > The use of whole eggs is not limited unless otherwise directed by your > doctor. Use egg whites and egg substitute as desired.
Don’t like just the whites of the eggs. > TOFU > Use soft, low-fat or lite varieties
Don’t eat. > VEGETABLES AND LEGUMES > Artichokes
Don’t eat. > Asparagus
Don’t eat. > Beans (black, butter, chickpeas, green, Italian, kidney, lentils, > lima, pigeon, soy, split peas, wax)
Eat some of these. Try to avoid soy. > Broccoli
Don’t eat. > Cabbage
Don’t eat, except tiny amounts in salad. > Cauliflower
Don’t eat except for the occasional piece of raw cauliflower. > Celery > Collard greens
Don’t eat. > Cucumbers
Don’t eat. > Eggplant
Eat only occasionally. But must be drowned in sauce and cheese. > Lettuce (all varieties) > Mushrooms (all varieties)
Don’t eat. > Snow peas
Eat very rarely. > Spinach > Sprouts, alfalfa
Don’t eat. > Turnips
Don’t eat. > Water chestnuts
Don’t eat. > Zucchini
Don’t eat unless in something like lasagna or drowned in Marina sauce. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> FATS > Oil, canola > Oil, olive > SPICES AND SEASONINGS > All spices that contain no added sugar > Broth > Extracts (almond, vanilla, or others) > Horseradish sauce > I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter! Spray > Pepper (black, cayenne, red, white) > SWEET TREATS (LIMIT TO 75 CALORIES PER DAY) > Candies, hard, sugar-free
Don’t eat. > Chocolate powder, no-added-sugar
Don’t eat. > Cocoa powder, baking type
Don’t eat. > Fudgsicles, sugar-free
Don’t eat. > Gelatin, sugar-free
Don’t eat with the exception of an occasional salad type thing. > Gum, sugar-free > Popsicles, sugar-free > Sugar substitute
I no longer have the link to it, but I could swear that it said no dairy in the first two weeks. So as you can see, there wouldn’t be very much for *me* to eat on this diet. For this reason, it would not work for me. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
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>It would be doable for me, only if I were allowed to eat other protein foods >that are not meat! But this diet doesn’t seem to allow such things. At >least not for the first two weeks.
This is not true either. Here is a list of the foods you can eat on Phase 1: BEEF Lean cuts, such as: Sirloin (including ground) Tenderloin Top round POULTRY (SKINLESS) Cornish hen Turkey bacon (2 slices per day) Turkey and chicken breast SEAFOOD All types of fish and shellfish PORK Boiled ham Canadian bacon Tenderloin VEAL Chop Cutlet, leg Top round LUNCHMEAT Fat-free or low-fat only CHEESE (FAT-FREE OR LOW-FAT) American Cheddar Cottage cheese, 1-2% or fat-free Cream cheese substitute, dairy-free Feta Mozzarella Parmesan Provolone Ricotta String NUTS Peanut butter, 1 tsp Peanuts, 20 small Pecan halves, 15 Pistachios, 30 EGGS The use of whole eggs is not limited unless otherwise directed by your doctor. Use egg whites and egg substitute as desired. TOFU Use soft, low-fat or lite varieties VEGETABLES AND LEGUMES Artichokes Asparagus Beans (black, butter, chickpeas, green, Italian, kidney, lentils, lima, pigeon, soy, split peas, wax) Broccoli Cabbage Cauliflower Celery Collard greens Cucumbers Eggplant Lettuce (all varieties) Mushrooms (all varieties) Snow peas Spinach Sprouts, alfalfa Turnips Water chestnuts Zucchini FATS Oil, canola Oil, olive SPICES AND SEASONINGS All spices that contain no added sugar Broth Extracts (almond, vanilla, or others) Horseradish sauce I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter! Spray Pepper (black, cayenne, red, white) SWEET TREATS (LIMIT TO 75 CALORIES PER DAY) Candies, hard, sugar-free Chocolate powder, no-added-sugar Cocoa powder, baking type Fudgsicles, sugar-free Gelatin, sugar-free Gum, sugar-free Popsicles, sugar-free Sugar substitute "Live as though there is no tomorrow, Love as though you have never been hurt, Dance as if no one is looking…" Satchel Paige
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>This diet eliminates all snacks.
It’s obvious you haven’t read the diet. This is not true. Even on phase 1 snacks are required. Don’t slam the diet unless you have actually looked into it. Dana "Live as though there is no tomorrow, Love as though you have never been hurt, Dance as if no one is looking…" Satchel Paige
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> well… how about you read it, study it, then take the info and adapt a new > "diet" for yourself, one that you can live with and try it, see if it helps > some? > actually, the SBD is more of what I eat daily anyhow, which I adapted from > atkins, because thats just TOO low for me.. I still eat about 100-150gm a > day.. few days.. lol like friday I hit 200+ opps. > never can hurt to try.. 
I see no way I could adapt such a diet for me. If the diet is one I can’t stick with, I won’t stick with it. I am a very picky eater and I simply won’t eat foods that I dislike. Currently, the only problem I have with my BG is morning fasting. This diet eliminates all snacks. Were I to eliminate my bedtime snack, the morning fasting BG would be higher still. I know this because I have tried it. Can’t see how any other parts of this diet would help me. On most days, eating less carbs is not an option for me. I have to be very careful with this not to eat too many, yet if I don’t eat enough I will go hypo if active. Being that it’s summer, I am active most every day. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
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> Julie, I didn’t look at the whole SB diet, but I can assure you that no > dairy for two weeks is quite doable, if necessary. I’ve done it now three > times, as a part of a low iodine diet before radioiodine treatment & scans > related to my thyroid cancer treatment & followup. The LID includes a few > other doozies as well. But at least it is only for 2-3 weeks at a time! (if > you really want more on that, see link at www.thyca.org)
It would be doable for me, only if I were allowed to eat other protein foods that are not meat! But this diet doesn’t seem to allow such things. At least not for the first two weeks. If it were necessary for some kind of medical reason, I could do that kind of diet for two weeks, but I would be very hungry the entire time. I just can’t bring myself to eat much meat at all, and certainly not twice a day. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
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: > http://www.prevention.com/cda/feature2002/0,4780,5345,00.html : : Thanks! That’s one diet I’d never be able to stick to. No dairy for the : first two weeks? And no more than two beverages with caffeine per day, : ever? No thanks! The first two weeks is mainly meat and vegetables. If I : had to eat meat every day for two weeks and limit myself to whatever few : other things they allow, I’d be VERY hungry! I don’t think I could make : myself eat meat as often as this diet recommends. : : — : Type 2 : http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/ : well… how about you read it, study it, then take the info and adapt a new "diet" for yourself, one that you can live with and try it, see if it helps some? actually, the SBD is more of what I eat daily anyhow, which I adapted from atkins, because thats just TOO low for me.. I still eat about 100-150gm a day.. few days.. lol like friday I hit 200+ opps. never can hurt to try.. RK
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>Julie, I didn’t look at the whole SB diet, but I can assure you that no >dairy for two weeks is quite doable, if necessary.
Yes it is, I’ve done it before and I am doing it right now. I always tell myself that I can do anything that I can see the end to….this is only two weeks, so the end is in sight. Dana "Live as though there is no tomorrow, Love as though you have never been hurt, Dance as if no one is looking…" Satchel Paige
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Julie, I didn’t look at the whole SB diet, but I can assure you that no dairy for two weeks is quite doable, if necessary. I’ve done it now three times, as a part of a low iodine diet before radioiodine treatment & scans related to my thyroid cancer treatment & followup. The LID includes a few other doozies as well. But at least it is only for 2-3 weeks at a time! (if you really want more on that, see link at www.thyca.org) bj
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> …That’s one diet I’d never be able to stick to. No dairy for the > first two weeks? ….
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> http://www.prevention.com/cda/feature2002/0,4780,5345,00.html
Thanks! That’s one diet I’d never be able to stick to. No dairy for the first two weeks? And no more than two beverages with caffeine per day, ever? No thanks! The first two weeks is mainly meat and vegetables. If I had to eat meat every day for two weeks and limit myself to whatever few other things they allow, I’d be VERY hungry! I don’t think I could make myself eat meat as often as this diet recommends. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
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> My wife has been on it for a little over two weeks so I have been kinda > following along with her but with some modifications since I am a type 2. I > have to say it seems to have helped me out with the so called dawn effect. > I have always been in the 130 – 160 range when I first tested in the morning > after I woke up. I have tried various snacks and stuff before bed to no > avail. For about the last week and a half I have been in the 100 – 120 > range.
What is different about your eating now? Can you give us a few sample menus? — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
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>OK< this suspense is killing me. What is in the diet? How are the carbs, >protein, fats allocated? How much and what can you eat?
http://tinyurl.com/fs8s or http://content.health.msn.com/content/article/65/72554.htm Excerpt: >It started out simply enough. Arthur Agatston, MD, a cardiologist, decided to develop an eating plan that would improve the cholesterol and insulin levels of his patients with heart disease. Now, the South Beach diet has grown into something much bigger. That’s because the plan Agatston created not only improves cholesterol and insulin levels, but it also has helped many people lose weight. >Agatston’s book about his plan, The South Beach Diet: The Delicious, Doctor-Designed, Foolproof Plan for Fast and Healthy Weight Loss, has become a best seller and it appears to be poised to overtake the controversial Atkins diet in popularity.
Dana "Live as though there is no tomorrow, Love as though you have never been hurt, Dance as if no one is looking…" Satchel Paige
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http://www.prevention.com/cda/feature2002/0,4780,5345,00.html
: : My wife has been on it for a little over two weeks so I have been kinda : : following along with her but with some modifications since I am a type 2. I : : have to say it seems to have helped me out with the so called dawn effect. : : : I have always been in the 130 – 160 range when I first tested in the morning : : after I woke up. I have tried various snacks and stuff before bed to no : : avail. For about the last week and a half I have been in the 100 – 120 : : range. : : : :> : :> > : :> >Anyone know anything about this diet? : :> > : :> >Dana : :> >"Live as though there is no tomorrow, : :> > Love as though you have never been hurt, : :> > Dance as if no one is looking…" : :> > Satchel Paige : :> : :> : :> no, unfortunately I live to far North. : :> : :> : : : : OK< this suspense is killing me. What is in the diet? How are the carbs, : protein, fats allocated? How much and what can you eat? : : Wendy Baker
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: My wife has been on it for a little over two weeks so I have been kinda : following along with her but with some modifications since I am a type 2. I : have to say it seems to have helped me out with the so called dawn effect. : I have always been in the 130 – 160 range when I first tested in the morning : after I woke up. I have tried various snacks and stuff before bed to no : avail. For about the last week and a half I have been in the 100 – 120 : range.
:> :> > :> >Anyone know anything about this diet? :> > :> >Dana :> >"Live as though there is no tomorrow, :> > Love as though you have never been hurt, :> > Dance as if no one is looking…" :> > Satchel Paige :> :> :> no, unfortunately I live to far North. :> :> OK< this suspense is killing me. What is in the diet? How are the carbs, protein, fats allocated? How much and what can you eat? Wendy Baker
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>My wife has been on it for a little over two weeks so I have been kinda >following along with her but with some modifications since I am a type 2. I >have to say it seems to have helped me out with the so called dawn effect. >I have always been in the 130 – 160 range when I first tested in the morning >after I woke up. I have tried various snacks and stuff before bed to no >avail. For about the last week and a half I have been in the 100 – 120 >range.
Hmmm…this is encouraging. Dana "Live as though there is no tomorrow, Love as though you have never been hurt, Dance as if no one is looking…" Satchel Paige
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My wife has been on it for a little over two weeks so I have been kinda following along with her but with some modifications since I am a type 2. I have to say it seems to have helped me out with the so called dawn effect. I have always been in the 130 – 160 range when I first tested in the morning after I woke up. I have tried various snacks and stuff before bed to no avail. For about the last week and a half I have been in the 100 – 120 range.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Anyone know anything about this diet? >Dana >"Live as though there is no tomorrow, > Love as though you have never been hurt, > Dance as if no one is looking…" > Satchel Paige > no, unfortunately I live to far North.
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>Interesting, read a good article on it from Prevention magazine, sound’s >like someone finally >is going to show the world how to eat properly. Doesn’t just restrict you, >teaches you how >to eat normally and make better choices. From what i’ve read, it’s not high >protein & extreme >low carb. Folks should do fairly well on this.
Actually, I decided to give it a go. I started the diet this morning and I will see how I fare on it. I know one thing, its not as complicated or as severe as Atkins. Dana "Live as though there is no tomorrow, Love as though you have never been hurt, Dance as if no one is looking…" Satchel Paige
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: : >Interesting, read a good article on it from Prevention magazine, sound’s : >like someone finally : >is going to show the world how to eat properly. Doesn’t just restrict you, : >teaches you how : >to eat normally and make better choices. From what i’ve read, it’s not high : >protein & extreme : >low carb. Folks should do fairly well on this. : : Actually, I decided to give it a go. I started the diet this morning : and I will see how I fare on it. I know one thing, its not as : complicated or as severe as Atkins. : I wish you luck let us know how your doing on it. RK : Dana : "Live as though there is no tomorrow, : Love as though you have never been hurt, : Dance as if no one is looking…" : Satchel Paige
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>Isn’t that the one where some bully kicks sand in the food of a 97 pound weakling.
No, it isn’t. Actually, it appears that SBD is giving Atkins some competition. I have been reading up on it and it sounds like a more humane version of Atkins, with easy to follow guidelines. Dana "Live as though there is no tomorrow, Love as though you have never been hurt, Dance as if no one is looking…" Satchel Paige
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: : Anyone know anything about this diet? : : Dana : "Live as though there is no tomorrow, : Love as though you have never been hurt, : Dance as if no one is looking…" : Satchel Paige Interesting, read a good article on it from Prevention magazine, sound’s like someone finally is going to show the world how to eat properly. Doesn’t just restrict you, teaches you how to eat normally and make better choices. From what i’ve read, it’s not high protein & extreme low carb. Folks should do fairly well on this. RK T1 -5/00
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>Anyone know anything about this diet? >Dana >"Live as though there is no tomorrow, > Love as though you have never been hurt, > Dance as if no one is looking…" > Satchel Paige
no, unfortunately I live to far North.
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> Anyone know anything about this diet?
Hmmm… Let’s see. Remembering South Beach fondly, I remember eating lot’s and lot’s of shrimp at sidewalk tables while drinking fruity rum drinks and oggling the nearly naked guys. Loki – oh, you meant for weight loss????
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Anything with the word Diet, New, Improved, Scientificaly proven, Dr. Approved. Are not for me! Been there done that for many years. The best so far is just cut the carbs baby. Ira — — Happy moments, praise God Difficult moments, seek God. Quiet moments, worship God. Painful moments, trust God. Every moment, thank God.
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> Anyone know anything about this diet? > Dana
Isn’t that the one where some bully kicks sand in the food of a 97 pound weakling.
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Anyone know anything about this diet? Dana "Live as though there is no tomorrow, Love as though you have never been hurt, Dance as if no one is looking…" Satchel Paige
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